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jimtom
Posted 2016-12-27 11:55 AM (#190212)
Subject: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1306
Sand Rock, AL United States
I may have an opportunity to buy another 99. The owner has had the handlebar replaced along with the clamp that would have had the number stamped on it. There is a format to the serial # that tells the production #. Does anyone know how it should read so I can tell if it was one of the first 1,500?
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johnnyvision
Posted 2016-12-28 5:12 PM (#190217 - in reply to #190212)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 4278
don't know what year or model your asking about
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11znl
Posted 2016-12-28 9:10 PM (#190219 - in reply to #190212)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 10
Edendale New Zealand
From what I have read the last 6 digits of the VIN are sequential serial numbers starting at 1 so those with VINs ending in 000001 to 001500 should be the first numbered ones. As to the location of the VIN plate it could possibly be on the steering head. In hope this helps in some way.
Rob
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jimtom
Posted 2016-12-29 4:08 AM (#190220 - in reply to #190219)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1306
Sand Rock, AL United States
Very helpful, thanks!
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rdbudd
Posted 2016-12-29 3:53 PM (#190222 - in reply to #190220)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1631
Jasper, MO
If I remember correctly, the run of "numbered" bikes, of which there were 1500 total, had their own serial numbering system. When the regular run of bikes began in 1999, the current system went into effect.

I am fairly certain that just a serial number between 000001 and 001500 is no proof of it being a "numbered" bike, and in fact may just be proof of the opposite.

Also, I am sure the special run of "numbered" bikes had other identifying features besides the clamp on the handlebar. One of those were special wheels.

I suggest you contact someone like Kevin Cross or Rylan Vos. They have a lot of experience with the early bikes.

Ronnie

Edited by rdbudd 2016-12-29 3:57 PM
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ByteN2it
Posted 2016-12-29 7:29 PM (#190224 - in reply to #190212)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
The first year bikes VIN #'s are sequential= the "numbered bikes" last four Vin #'s match the handlebar riser plaque number. Numbered bikes only came in two colors-Antares Red/Black & KYSO Blue/Black. As mentioned above the wheels have a small Victory script logo on one spoke each side & they'll have the "flying V" heel toe shifter with chrome floorboards. There's a few other tells if it's totally stock or possibly had some recalls-A picture would make it easy to say if it's genuine.
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jimtom
Posted 2016-12-30 4:41 AM (#190227 - in reply to #190224)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1306
Sand Rock, AL United States
this one is Antares Red/black. I suspect it to be a numbered bike. This guy is the original owner but before he bought it , the dealer changed the handlebar per his request and it has an aftermarket bar clamp now I'm trying to look at it covertly with a poker face. I don't want to ask or bring up that it might be a numbered bike as he may place a new value on it but the stamped bar clamp is a big deal to me.

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jimtom
Posted 2016-12-30 5:18 AM (#190228 - in reply to #190224)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1306
Sand Rock, AL United States
never mind, I just realized it is a 2000 model. Pressure is off. Now I can just be interested in it for what it is.
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ByteN2it
Posted 2016-12-30 7:28 AM (#190230 - in reply to #190212)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
Not Antares Red either-that's the Champion Red/Black that was offered on the 2000 models. These can be great bikes for someone willing to put the effort into them & in many ways more solid than the new Vics-you won't find any plastic on them. Numbered bikes are cool but they don't commanded any more value-either way you need to figure in the cost of an engine/transmission swap if you plan on putting any kind of serious miles on it. They blue book for $3,500 in excellent condition-that's why I have one in my garage, it's worth more to me than to anyone else.

Edited by ByteN2it 2016-12-30 7:42 AM
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jimtom
Posted 2016-12-30 9:04 AM (#190232 - in reply to #190230)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1306
Sand Rock, AL United States
I'm not going to put serious miles on it, that is what my Visions are for. I want to always have a 99. Maybe a numbered 99 will command more value in 30 years. Thank you all for your help.
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ByteN2it
Posted 2016-12-30 8:37 PM (#190235 - in reply to #190212)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
just for fun I did a search for 99's for sale-found this low mileage KYSO numbered bike for $1,800
http://www.cycletrader.com/dealers/Thornton%27s-Motorcycle-Sales-70...
they're out there and they need someone to adopt them into a loving home
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jimtom
Posted 2017-01-02 11:06 AM (#190240 - in reply to #190235)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1306
Sand Rock, AL United States
I called about that one. Third gear is out , aka tranny issue.
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ByteN2it
Posted 2017-01-02 12:26 PM (#190241 - in reply to #190212)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
Any 1999 V92C is going to have a high probability of transmission failure-mine went at around 26,000 miles. Luckily I had a 1+3 year warranty that Polaris was throwing in at the time I bought mine. Ended up with a '03 transmission upgrade & a $500 gift certificate that Victory gave me for taking 6 months to get my bike back on the road+I got high compression pistons & cams that I provided my mechanic (along with a couple cases of beer) installed for free while the engine was torn down. A $1,800 project bike with a Freedom engine transplanted ($3,000?) would still be a great ride/value compared to what new bikes go for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo7sVbyUanA

Edited by ByteN2it 2017-01-02 12:38 PM
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jimtom
Posted 2017-01-02 1:18 PM (#190242 - in reply to #190241)
Subject: Re: How can I tell?


Visionary

Posts: 1306
Sand Rock, AL United States
no, it's all about original for me with the tranny upgrade of course. My 99 went 150,000 miles after the tranny upgrade at 20K, before the main bearing failure. There are a lot 99's and 2000's running around with the tranny upgrade and no chance of tranny failure. They are bullet proof. I am looking at other road worthy tranny upgraded examples with the hammer engines. That bike in IN is not worth it to me, I would have a ton (for me) invested in it by the time i traveled to get it , haul it home and pay for the repair. I can get a good running , tranny upgraded example for $3K.
Thank you for looking one up for me though. I have 2 local, I will look at one of them this week. The other I have already looked at and just have to make a decision.

Edited by jimtom 2017-01-02 1:21 PM
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