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| I bought my 09 VV a year ago next month and put 13K plus on the bike, which sort of snuck up on me. Replaced the tires front/rear a week after I bought Victoria. I played hookie from work this past Wednesday and headed up to Williams, AZ for lunch and some BBQ, including a cold IPA or should I say two. Coming back into Phoenix I hit 103 degrees outside temp and figured it was time to give the tires a close inspection vs a general glance or look see. I'm running 40lbs front/rear and check weekly since I use the ol gal as a daily commuter to work. Upon looking the tires over no serious coupling I could see, sidewall looks solid. If anything, the center looks a little thin, but nothing crazy. I know it boils down to riding style, but coming from a sports touring background I have no issues/reservations with leaning "biggin" over in the twisties, but based on appearance I don't see any reason why I can't get another 3-4K out of this set. Am I crazy or smoking something? I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask what the rest of you all can squeeze out of set or if I'm just kidding myself and they have to go? No "chain pulling" please by telling me you have to replace every 6K since I know better unless Valentino Rossi rides a VV  I know this is a high mileage tire, but this is rediculous. I plan on heading up that way again on Sunday, but I'm not sure if I'm pushing my luck. I know what I can squeeze out of a Metzeler 880, but the E3s are completely new to me. Take care and thanks for the feedback. Vlad. | |||
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| The temperature was my worry as well living in Arizona where we have already hit triple digits and are in for one hell of a scorching summer. Will need to be more vigilant on checking the tires more closely after the 13K thus far. It appears I am not crazy as yet so thanks for all the feedback. Heading out in the morning for a nice 300 mile lunch ride with my BMW buddies, which is always a good time. I'm hoping I can keep up with them hence the reason I installed the Ness Signature muffler bearings | |||
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| rdbudd - 2014-04-13 4:15 PM Vladezip - 2014-04-13 3:50 AM willtill - 2014-04-12 6:00 AM Read this thread. We discussed recently: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15109&po... I did a keyword search prior to posting and this link didn't pop up so my apologies. Tracked down a Goldwing site to get a feel as well. I figure the Goldwing is even a bigger pack camel so I should get at least what they are getting by way of mileage. Thanks, Vlad. Actually, when similarly loaded, the Goldwing and Vision weigh about the same. A friend and I weighed our bikes, loaded for a two week trip, two people on each, and they weighed almost exactly the same. The Vision and the Goldwing get about the same mileage out of tires too. The Goldwing forums are a good place to research tires. The Vision has a GVWR of 1414 pounds compared to the Goldwing at 1316 pounds. We both weighed 1340 pounds on the day in question, same scales, same day, weighing one, then the other. Ronnie So what you're saying is your significant other weighs in excess of 200lbs in addition to one heavy as hell cosmedic bag as compared to the Goldwing passenger that weighs 120lbs and took two pairs of pants and two tshirts with her? Just having some fun at your expense Ronnie, which I'm sure you can handle. Good to know. I just see the hard bags on the Goldwing and think if Macgyver was a motorcyclist he would be all over it Good to note for sure. | |||
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| Vladezip - 2014-04-14 2:13 AM rdbudd - 2014-04-13 4:15 PM Vladezip - 2014-04-13 3:50 AM willtill - 2014-04-12 6:00 AM Read this thread. We discussed recently: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15109&po... I did a keyword search prior to posting and this link didn't pop up so my apologies. Tracked down a Goldwing site to get a feel as well. I figure the Goldwing is even a bigger pack camel so I should get at least what they are getting by way of mileage. Thanks, Vlad. Actually, when similarly loaded, the Goldwing and Vision weigh about the same. A friend and I weighed our bikes, loaded for a two week trip, two people on each, and they weighed almost exactly the same. The Vision and the Goldwing get about the same mileage out of tires too. The Goldwing forums are a good place to research tires. The Vision has a GVWR of 1414 pounds compared to the Goldwing at 1316 pounds. We both weighed 1340 pounds on the day in question, same scales, same day, weighing one, then the other. Ronnie So what you're saying is your significant other weighs in excess of 200lbs in addition to one heavy as hell cosmedic bag as compared to the Goldwing passenger that weighs 120lbs and took two pairs of pants and two tshirts with her? Just having some fun at your expense Ronnie, which I'm sure you can handle. Good to know. I just see the hard bags on the Goldwing and think if Macgyver was a motorcyclist he would be all over it Good to note for sure.  In truth, our rider/passenger combinations weigh about the same. The Goldwing is about 15 pounds heavier than the Vision when both are unladen. To equal the storage capacity of the Goldwing, I have to use a roll bag on my trunk rack. With the use of the rack and roll bag, we carry every bit as much, or more, stuff as the couple on the Goldwing. We generally put light weight stuff, like rainsuits and windbreakers in the bag on the rack. The Vision's saddlebags hold more than it would appear, but the ridiculously small openings make it look like they don't, and make getting stuff in and out difficult. We gave up on the liners and use a couple of stuff sacks in each side so we can use the total capacity. The liners won't go in or out very well if you fill them full, since the opening is so small. If Victory would just make the opening the same size as the interior of the bags, a lot of the complaints about the Vision's saddlebag capacity would probably go away. The small openings are the main problem. Interestingly, when we weighed the front and rear of the bikes individually, with rider aboard, the Goldwing carries about 20 pounds more on the front wheel than the Vision and rider. We personally weigh about the same ( he is tall and slender, and I'm short and fat). When fully loaded with passengers and two weeks worth of gear, the bikes weigh very nearly the same on front and rear tires. In our case, the riders and passengers weigh close to the same ( the girls won't tell us, but we went back and reweighed without them along, and figured it out--shhhh). We all know that GW riders regularly exceed the manufacturer's GVWR rating, which is nearly 100 pounds less than the Vision's. Who knows why Honda puts a lower GVWR on their machine? Obviously, the bikes can and do handle more than 1316 pounds. Bottom line--the Vision is just as much of a pack horse as the GL1800 Goldwing (the GL1500 holds a little more than the GL1800) and they weigh the same when loaded up for a trip, with similar weights on the front and rear tires, when the riders and passengers are of similar weights. Tire life is also similar under equal riding conditions. The Goldwing's saddlebags are much easier to use than the Vision's, since Honda saw fit to make the openings the same height as the interior. The smaller than the interior openings of the Vision's saddlebags make using the full capacity more difficult, especially if you use the saddlebag liners. Honda wins on that comparison. Victory needs to make the openings the same size as the interior. Somebody had a brain fart when they decided to make the openings smaller than the interior. Ronnie | |||
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| rdbudd - 2014-04-14 8:54 AM Vladezip - 2014-04-14 2:13 AM rdbudd - 2014-04-13 4:15 PM Vladezip - 2014-04-13 3:50 AM willtill - 2014-04-12 6:00 AM Read this thread. We discussed recently: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15109&po... I did a keyword search prior to posting and this link didn't pop up so my apologies. Tracked down a Goldwing site to get a feel as well. I figure the Goldwing is even a bigger pack camel so I should get at least what they are getting by way of mileage. Thanks, Vlad. Actually, when similarly loaded, the Goldwing and Vision weigh about the same. A friend and I weighed our bikes, loaded for a two week trip, two people on each, and they weighed almost exactly the same. The Vision and the Goldwing get about the same mileage out of tires too. The Goldwing forums are a good place to research tires. The Vision has a GVWR of 1414 pounds compared to the Goldwing at 1316 pounds. We both weighed 1340 pounds on the day in question, same scales, same day, weighing one, then the other. Ronnie So what you're saying is your significant other weighs in excess of 200lbs in addition to one heavy as hell cosmedic bag as compared to the Goldwing passenger that weighs 120lbs and took two pairs of pants and two tshirts with her? Just having some fun at your expense Ronnie, which I'm sure you can handle. Good to know. I just see the hard bags on the Goldwing and think if Macgyver was a motorcyclist he would be all over it Good to note for sure. In truth, our rider/passenger combinations weigh about the same. The Goldwing is about 15 pounds heavier than the Vision when both are unladen. To equal the storage capacity of the Goldwing, I have to use a roll bag on my trunk rack. With the use of the rack and roll bag, we carry every bit as much, or more, stuff as the couple on the Goldwing. We generally put light weight stuff, like rainsuits and windbreakers in the bag on the rack. The Vision's saddlebags hold more than it would appear, but the ridiculously small openings make it look like they don't, and make getting stuff in and out difficult. We gave up on the liners and use a couple of stuff sacks in each side so we can use the total capacity. The liners won't go in or out very well if you fill them full, since the opening is so small. If Victory would just make the opening the same size as the interior of the bags, a lot of the complaints about the Vision's saddlebag capacity would probably go away. The small openings are the main problem. Interestingly, when we weighed the front and rear of the bikes individually, with rider aboard, the Goldwing carries about 20 pounds more on the front wheel than the Vision and rider. We personally weigh about the same ( he is tall and slender, and I'm short and fat). When fully loaded with passengers and two weeks worth of gear, the bikes weigh very nearly the same on front and rear tires. In our case, the riders and passengers weigh close to the same ( the girls won't tell us, but we went back and reweighed without them along, and figured it out--shhhh). We all know that GW riders regularly exceed the manufacturer's GVWR rating, which is nearly 100 pounds less than the Vision's. Who knows why Honda puts a lower GVWR on their machine? Obviously, the bikes can and do handle more than 1316 pounds. Bottom line--the Vision is just as much of a pack horse as the GL1800 Goldwing (the GL1500 holds a little more than the GL1800) and they weigh the same when loaded up for a trip, with similar weights on the front and rear tires, when the riders and passengers are of similar weights. Tire life is also similar under equal riding conditions. The Goldwing's saddlebags are much easier to use than the Vision's, since Honda saw fit to make the openings the same height as the interior. The smaller than the interior openings of the Vision's saddlebags make using the full capacity more difficult, especially if you use the saddlebag liners. Honda wins on that comparison. Victory needs to make the openings the same size as the interior. Somebody had a brain fart when they decided to make the openings smaller than the interior. Ronnie From my standpoint and if it was entirely up to me, I naturally prefer the "ridiculously small openings" as you mentioned above myself vs the much larger opening on the Goldwing. I know. Don't quit my day job. | |||
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